If you are smart enough to build a time machine… you are probably smart enough to realize the shift in cosmic coordinates. This is some BBT level humor.
Shimshi1998 on
Earth spinning around itself + earth spinning around the sun + the entire solar system orbiting in our galaxy + trh entire galaxy moving in space…. ez calculations
Edit: Wow, apparently this *is* the original! I thought it was a bone hurting juice style, overly literal edit.
CrazyCoKids on
I prefer the bone hurting juice version.
“Come on, you gotta believe me. I’m not sus.”
“Yeah but i’m in voice chat wirh blue and yellow. They daid you killed them.”
“…….”
“Screw you!”
*Pico was the Impostor*
Terrin369 on
The dialogue is confusing. He says Time Machine, but then describes it like a teleporter. He says he will move to the location he was 15 minutes ago. As a teleportation device, this would still be a problem when factoring coordinates if he used data relevant to 15 minutes ago and didn’t further account for ongoing movement of celestial bodies.
Now, the comic could just have worded it awkwardly, and he calculated to go back in time 15 minutes and messed up the spacial coordinates, placing him in the path of the moving planet. But even if it worked, he would still be dead as if he placed himself in the time and place he was 15 minutes ago, he would intersect with his past self, likely killing both.
thefonztm on
This is my favorite answer to ‘is time travel possible?’ Yes, but you can’t travel in space while traveling in time.
uhmhi on
Coordinates without a reference frame is completely meaningless. Even the phrase “the exact spot I was at 15 minutes ago” requires a frame of reference.
kinokomushroom on
This type of “gotcha” never make sense because there’s no absolute reference frame. Earth’s reference frame is just as valid as the Sun’s, the Milky Way’s, or any other random one. Why wouldn’t the time machine just travel along the reference frame it was originally in?
ThatLooksRight on
There was a tv show called “7 Days” where they actually pointed out this requirement during time travel.
RabidJoint on
But he is goes back in time, that means the earth would too? It’s not even logical to be funny.
Meme_Theory on
It is why we think ghosts aren’t real; they just aren’t gravitationally bound.
bartz824 on
What happened to the time machine?
helloureddit on
Assuming an alternativ with static coordinates. He’d disappear and appear back in the yellow box.
He’d then have to get out and hide before his younger self enters the machine.
His older self would then emerge from, say, another room.
Otherwise the spectator would already know that it worked. But that’s a whole different story because quantum physically, the older self would impact the younger universe even without greeting/meeting either of the younger guys.
KitchenFullOfCake on
Huh, I read a short story from a book of horror stories when I was a kid that more or less had this exact plot.
sepaoon on
So its just a teleport… if he moved to the exact spot he was 15 mins ago this happens. But if time reversed the earth would be where it was 15 mins ago also
stevieoats on
You can’t separate time from space. Time travel affects both together, so you stay anchored in the same spacetime position when either are changed. The idea that you’d be left floating in space is some r/iamverysmart bullshit.
drArsMoriendi on
But what are the universal coordinates? You can describe everything else perfectly if you assume the Earth is perfectly stationary. The math would be annoying, but not wrong.
Erykoman on
If there are no universal coordinates, he would appear inside the time machine.
If there are universal coordinates, he would appear much, MUCH further from Earth.
gravitationalarray on
Neatly illustrates how pointless it is to argue with people.
ElliottSmith88 on
Futurama did it
Maxwe4 on
That would be a teleportation machine, not a time machine.
nimix133 on
If time reversed for the traveler then the earth would be in the same spot that the traveler was 15 minutes prior. This cartoon indicates the traveler was taken out of time for 15 minutes as the earth moved away from him not time travel to the past.
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If you are smart enough to build a time machine… you are probably smart enough to realize the shift in cosmic coordinates. This is some BBT level humor.
Earth spinning around itself + earth spinning around the sun + the entire solar system orbiting in our galaxy + trh entire galaxy moving in space…. ez calculations
[this wouldn’t happen if you used crystals!](https://www.atomic-robo.com/atomicrobo/v2fcbd-page-1)
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What was the original wording?
Edit: Wow, apparently this *is* the original! I thought it was a bone hurting juice style, overly literal edit.
I prefer the bone hurting juice version.
“Come on, you gotta believe me. I’m not sus.”
“Yeah but i’m in voice chat wirh blue and yellow. They daid you killed them.”
“…….”
“Screw you!”
*Pico was the Impostor*
The dialogue is confusing. He says Time Machine, but then describes it like a teleporter. He says he will move to the location he was 15 minutes ago. As a teleportation device, this would still be a problem when factoring coordinates if he used data relevant to 15 minutes ago and didn’t further account for ongoing movement of celestial bodies.
Now, the comic could just have worded it awkwardly, and he calculated to go back in time 15 minutes and messed up the spacial coordinates, placing him in the path of the moving planet. But even if it worked, he would still be dead as if he placed himself in the time and place he was 15 minutes ago, he would intersect with his past self, likely killing both.
This is my favorite answer to ‘is time travel possible?’ Yes, but you can’t travel in space while traveling in time.
Coordinates without a reference frame is completely meaningless. Even the phrase “the exact spot I was at 15 minutes ago” requires a frame of reference.
This type of “gotcha” never make sense because there’s no absolute reference frame. Earth’s reference frame is just as valid as the Sun’s, the Milky Way’s, or any other random one. Why wouldn’t the time machine just travel along the reference frame it was originally in?
There was a tv show called “7 Days” where they actually pointed out this requirement during time travel.
But he is goes back in time, that means the earth would too? It’s not even logical to be funny.
It is why we think ghosts aren’t real; they just aren’t gravitationally bound.
What happened to the time machine?
Assuming an alternativ with static coordinates. He’d disappear and appear back in the yellow box.
He’d then have to get out and hide before his younger self enters the machine.
His older self would then emerge from, say, another room.
Otherwise the spectator would already know that it worked. But that’s a whole different story because quantum physically, the older self would impact the younger universe even without greeting/meeting either of the younger guys.
Huh, I read a short story from a book of horror stories when I was a kid that more or less had this exact plot.
So its just a teleport… if he moved to the exact spot he was 15 mins ago this happens. But if time reversed the earth would be where it was 15 mins ago also
You can’t separate time from space. Time travel affects both together, so you stay anchored in the same spacetime position when either are changed. The idea that you’d be left floating in space is some r/iamverysmart bullshit.
But what are the universal coordinates? You can describe everything else perfectly if you assume the Earth is perfectly stationary. The math would be annoying, but not wrong.
If there are no universal coordinates, he would appear inside the time machine.
If there are universal coordinates, he would appear much, MUCH further from Earth.
Neatly illustrates how pointless it is to argue with people.
Futurama did it
That would be a teleportation machine, not a time machine.
If time reversed for the traveler then the earth would be in the same spot that the traveler was 15 minutes prior. This cartoon indicates the traveler was taken out of time for 15 minutes as the earth moved away from him not time travel to the past.
Needs a Heisenberg Compensator