We can only hope these guys will do the right thing if push comes to shove…its insanely alarming how effective people with half a braincell are at undermining our democracy. We’d all be absolutely fucked if someone of even average IQ were to get in power and attempt all of this.
-Lorne-Malvo- on
Whiskey Pete lecturing these guys on “warrior ethos” is so fucking comical.
jwr1111 on
President Bone-Spurs, the war hero, threatening our greatest military leaders, and wasting their valuable time.
The good folks of America apologize, and we feel your collective pain on this.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot GOP sycophants? This is not how you treat real war Heroes.
OneDudesReddit on
His look clearly says “what the fuck did this shit stain just say?”
frankenmullet22 on
Do you want knife hands pointed at you? Because this is how you get knife hands pointed at you
kevinthedot on
I hope some of the generals used that time being brought in for what should have been an email to meet and discuss what they’ll do if these clearly incompetent idiots actually pull the trigger on something worldending.
Legit feels like a military coup would be preferable to whatever is going through Pete and Don’s heads.
Mala_Practice on
Based upon the pictures and video I have seen of the crowd reaction, i’d be super fucking nervous if I were in Trump or Hegseth’s position…
PiskoWK on
If the generals could do any resistance at all this would be really cool.
Branchomania on
Isn’t that the one that had a heart attack? Trump might just give him another one in that case.
Condorman73 on
We’ll see if anything happens from this, but my guess is no. Why? Because “following orders”.
Reddsoldier on
What do we think the US equivalent of Swan Lake will be?
LocalInactivist on
I see it as encouraging. There’s no way the brass will back a coup. If an officer backs a coup they risk penalties ranging from dishonorable discharge (no pension) to execution for treason. They have to be sure it’s warranted and that it will succeed. Non-command officers (Lieutenants, Captains, Majors) may be able to assert that they were following orders they believed to be legal. Generals don’t have that luxury. Based on their reaction to Hegseth’s performance there’s no way the command structure will cast their lot with Trump. Considering Trump’s long history of firing people and disparaging them for the slightest disloyalty, and of throwing his allies and supporters under the bus on whim, I can’t see any of them risking it all to make Trump dictator.
GooseCloaca on
I was not in the Marines, or military for that matter. I just felt compelled to do forty pushups looking at that man’s face.
somebigface on
Imagine thinking the US military is going to save us from Trump.
procrastablasta on
While I’m super interested in knowing the genuine thoughts from the military in that room, KEEP IN MIND they were not the audience. They were in the auditorium as seat fillers for the TV show. The intended audience was MAGA base, “undecideds” and Fox News.
Hegseth is a PR man. Trump is an aging celebrity. The acting administration is Miller and project 2025
reddurkel on
Can you believe these highly decorated military leaders had to be called away from their important jobs to listen to TWO social media influencers lecture them on how their military should be run.
And these weren’t even tips based on studies and research. It’s just stuff they saw in a movie and thought would sound cool on stage.
ScottsTotz on
I hope they remember their oath when this fascist clown tries to turn guns on their own people
Sleepy_Heather on
That man just recognised the “and domestic” part of his oath
AGuyWhoBrokeBad on
Unless the military plans a coup, I’m not sure what it matters how they look at him. They could think he’s the dumbest sack of shit to ever stain their floors, but if they take his orders all the same, it makes no difference.
nutmegtell on
They did NOTHING.
Not one hero among them.
ElderberryMaster4694 on
Actions speak. We’ll see what they do obviously. I don’t share many of your optimism.
I’d be delighted to be wrong
SnooPets8972 on
Their own families live in those cities Donald was talking about training soldiers in.
nurdmann on
“The right of a nation to kill a tyrant in case of necessity can no more be doubted than to hang a robber, or kill a flea.”
John Adams
sirchtheseeker on
He reminds me over my sergeant major who served in Vietnam. You never want that look. No bueno
Brannigans-Law on
That’s General Eric Smith, Commandant of the Marine Corps, and he doesn’t fucking play about hazing. When he was the General over 1st Marines in Pendleton, he cleaned house and kicked like 15-20 Marines from the Corps over it. He seriously took it personal, and now Kegbreath is up there telling them they should be embracing hazing. Unreal.
SKDI_0224 on
Speak softly and carry a big stick. I have found that those who bloviate often have nothing with which to back up their bravado. I am a transgender man. Since starting testosterone I have put on mass. Quite a lot, actually. I was 5’8 in my socks and while I hadn’t expected to get taller, I got a bit more so. So in my boots I’m 5’11” and I am 180 lbs.
Do you know that looming is an effective tactic? I don’t need to say anything, just stand there and give a look and people tend to shut up. That is strength. That is power. Having the assurance to not need to announce your power.
The drunk in charge has made us look weak and impotent. And I use those words deliberately. He got this job as a form of gender-affirming care because he does not know what it means to be a strong man.
SubstantialAbility17 on
The majority of these officers have the equivalent of Ph.d’s to achieve their ranks. I would have that look too if a tv talking head was lecturing me on warrior ethos.
Firm-Trick1663 on
I do want that look on his face. I want him and all the rest to step the fuck up and help save OUR COUNTRY ! I want them all to uphold their oath to the constitution.
uno_dos_3 on
Well they need to do something about it: STAT.
Angry_Foamy on
Really, because not one general stood up to the obvious fascism on full display. They are all I I didn’t little puppies doing the devil’s work. There are no heroes.
Sandy_Bananas on
Even without being in the marines. This is the ‘wtf did you just say?!’ Look.
Anyone that’s not a homunculi should be able to recognise this..
peachesgp on
Let’s stop calling attention to it. They’re gonna try to rid themselves of disloyal officers. We want the officers whose loyalty is actually to the Constitution to remain in place where possible.
henry_sqared on
It’s crazy to think that a military coup is the lesser evil, but here we are…
As a former enlisted Navy man, I concur wholeheartedly.
TryingToStayOutOfIt on
Military. Coup.
thefirstdragonborn on
General Eric Smith, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, a Texas A&M Aggie legend, and former member of the Corps of Cadets and nationally famous Fightin’ Texas Aggie Band. That’s the look of a man who was trained on the core values of Respect, Excellence, Leadership, Loyalty, Integrity, and Selfless Service, and is being told to take orders from men who embody none of those values.
superedubb on
I would like to think the majority of them there actually feel what this pic seems to represent. I don’t really believe that though. I fear they’ll fall in like with Dear leader.
kikashoots on
Trump and Hegseth really were 100% positive the outcome of that meeting was going to resemble an Epstein frat house of hollering and support.
That’s why Trump encouraged them to cheer and clap because all they got was CRICKETS.
abobslife on
That man was wounded in combat and has to listed to a Fox Entertainment host lecture him on being a warrior.
mtnracer on
I wish he’d just go ahead and do what he’s thinking.
mundotaku on
Yeah, there is a huge divide between officers and enlisted. If you are enlisted, you are there to follow orders and not to think. If you are an officer you are there to think rationally and you value truthful and accurate information.
It is not a surprise that most officers are fairly centrists while most of the enlisted personnel are mostly MAGA.
Acedaboi1da on
Statistically speaking, it’s highly likely he voted for Trump.
SwimmerIndependent47 on
I never thought a military coup could be a net positive, but I’m rethinking a lot of things right now
persondude27 on
I’m a civilian and have met two generals (Army and Air Force) face to face.
These people are *incredibly* competent. They are unflappable. Even as non-DoD, you instantly know that they are where they are for a reason.
Every person around them treated them with respect, not just because of their rank, but because they actually believed in the leader. (And those people were often colonels).
I had an extensive discussion with an Air Force O-8 on something that was my specialty (medicine), and they knew very little about. He kept asking the right questions: “If you’re saying [a], then that means [b], right? So we would need [c] to support that.” Boom. Intelligent, practical, and skilled in understanding what they were being told.
Now. Imagine those people whose job it is to make *hard*, literal life-and-death decisions, hearing:
> We fight to win. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don’t **fight with stupid rules of engagement**. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. **No** more politically correct and **overbearing rules of engagemen**t, just common sense, maximum **lethality**, and authority for warfighters.
I am deeply hopeful that Hegseth demonstrated to each and every leader in our armed forces why he cannot be followed.
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We can only hope these guys will do the right thing if push comes to shove…its insanely alarming how effective people with half a braincell are at undermining our democracy. We’d all be absolutely fucked if someone of even average IQ were to get in power and attempt all of this.
Whiskey Pete lecturing these guys on “warrior ethos” is so fucking comical.
President Bone-Spurs, the war hero, threatening our greatest military leaders, and wasting their valuable time.
The good folks of America apologize, and we feel your collective pain on this.
Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot GOP sycophants? This is not how you treat real war Heroes.
His look clearly says “what the fuck did this shit stain just say?”
Do you want knife hands pointed at you? Because this is how you get knife hands pointed at you
I hope some of the generals used that time being brought in for what should have been an email to meet and discuss what they’ll do if these clearly incompetent idiots actually pull the trigger on something worldending.
Legit feels like a military coup would be preferable to whatever is going through Pete and Don’s heads.
Based upon the pictures and video I have seen of the crowd reaction, i’d be super fucking nervous if I were in Trump or Hegseth’s position…
If the generals could do any resistance at all this would be really cool.
Isn’t that the one that had a heart attack? Trump might just give him another one in that case.
We’ll see if anything happens from this, but my guess is no. Why? Because “following orders”.
What do we think the US equivalent of Swan Lake will be?
I see it as encouraging. There’s no way the brass will back a coup. If an officer backs a coup they risk penalties ranging from dishonorable discharge (no pension) to execution for treason. They have to be sure it’s warranted and that it will succeed. Non-command officers (Lieutenants, Captains, Majors) may be able to assert that they were following orders they believed to be legal. Generals don’t have that luxury. Based on their reaction to Hegseth’s performance there’s no way the command structure will cast their lot with Trump. Considering Trump’s long history of firing people and disparaging them for the slightest disloyalty, and of throwing his allies and supporters under the bus on whim, I can’t see any of them risking it all to make Trump dictator.
I was not in the Marines, or military for that matter. I just felt compelled to do forty pushups looking at that man’s face.
Imagine thinking the US military is going to save us from Trump.
While I’m super interested in knowing the genuine thoughts from the military in that room, KEEP IN MIND they were not the audience. They were in the auditorium as seat fillers for the TV show. The intended audience was MAGA base, “undecideds” and Fox News.
Hegseth is a PR man. Trump is an aging celebrity. The acting administration is Miller and project 2025
Can you believe these highly decorated military leaders had to be called away from their important jobs to listen to TWO social media influencers lecture them on how their military should be run.
And these weren’t even tips based on studies and research. It’s just stuff they saw in a movie and thought would sound cool on stage.
I hope they remember their oath when this fascist clown tries to turn guns on their own people
That man just recognised the “and domestic” part of his oath
Unless the military plans a coup, I’m not sure what it matters how they look at him. They could think he’s the dumbest sack of shit to ever stain their floors, but if they take his orders all the same, it makes no difference.
They did NOTHING.
Not one hero among them.
Actions speak. We’ll see what they do obviously. I don’t share many of your optimism.
I’d be delighted to be wrong
Their own families live in those cities Donald was talking about training soldiers in.
“The right of a nation to kill a tyrant in case of necessity can no more be doubted than to hang a robber, or kill a flea.”
John Adams
He reminds me over my sergeant major who served in Vietnam. You never want that look. No bueno
That’s General Eric Smith, Commandant of the Marine Corps, and he doesn’t fucking play about hazing. When he was the General over 1st Marines in Pendleton, he cleaned house and kicked like 15-20 Marines from the Corps over it. He seriously took it personal, and now Kegbreath is up there telling them they should be embracing hazing. Unreal.
Speak softly and carry a big stick. I have found that those who bloviate often have nothing with which to back up their bravado. I am a transgender man. Since starting testosterone I have put on mass. Quite a lot, actually. I was 5’8 in my socks and while I hadn’t expected to get taller, I got a bit more so. So in my boots I’m 5’11” and I am 180 lbs.
Do you know that looming is an effective tactic? I don’t need to say anything, just stand there and give a look and people tend to shut up. That is strength. That is power. Having the assurance to not need to announce your power.
The drunk in charge has made us look weak and impotent. And I use those words deliberately. He got this job as a form of gender-affirming care because he does not know what it means to be a strong man.
The majority of these officers have the equivalent of Ph.d’s to achieve their ranks. I would have that look too if a tv talking head was lecturing me on warrior ethos.
I do want that look on his face. I want him and all the rest to step the fuck up and help save OUR COUNTRY ! I want them all to uphold their oath to the constitution.
Well they need to do something about it: STAT.
Really, because not one general stood up to the obvious fascism on full display. They are all I I didn’t little puppies doing the devil’s work. There are no heroes.
Even without being in the marines. This is the ‘wtf did you just say?!’ Look.
Anyone that’s not a homunculi should be able to recognise this..
Let’s stop calling attention to it. They’re gonna try to rid themselves of disloyal officers. We want the officers whose loyalty is actually to the Constitution to remain in place where possible.
It’s crazy to think that a military coup is the lesser evil, but here we are…
https://i.redd.it/m4zrtb4qxpsf1.gif
As a former enlisted Navy man, I concur wholeheartedly.
Military. Coup.
General Eric Smith, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, a Texas A&M Aggie legend, and former member of the Corps of Cadets and nationally famous Fightin’ Texas Aggie Band. That’s the look of a man who was trained on the core values of Respect, Excellence, Leadership, Loyalty, Integrity, and Selfless Service, and is being told to take orders from men who embody none of those values.
I would like to think the majority of them there actually feel what this pic seems to represent. I don’t really believe that though. I fear they’ll fall in like with Dear leader.
Trump and Hegseth really were 100% positive the outcome of that meeting was going to resemble an Epstein frat house of hollering and support.
That’s why Trump encouraged them to cheer and clap because all they got was CRICKETS.
That man was wounded in combat and has to listed to a Fox Entertainment host lecture him on being a warrior.
I wish he’d just go ahead and do what he’s thinking.
Yeah, there is a huge divide between officers and enlisted. If you are enlisted, you are there to follow orders and not to think. If you are an officer you are there to think rationally and you value truthful and accurate information.
It is not a surprise that most officers are fairly centrists while most of the enlisted personnel are mostly MAGA.
Statistically speaking, it’s highly likely he voted for Trump.
I never thought a military coup could be a net positive, but I’m rethinking a lot of things right now
I’m a civilian and have met two generals (Army and Air Force) face to face.
These people are *incredibly* competent. They are unflappable. Even as non-DoD, you instantly know that they are where they are for a reason.
Every person around them treated them with respect, not just because of their rank, but because they actually believed in the leader. (And those people were often colonels).
I had an extensive discussion with an Air Force O-8 on something that was my specialty (medicine), and they knew very little about. He kept asking the right questions: “If you’re saying [a], then that means [b], right? So we would need [c] to support that.” Boom. Intelligent, practical, and skilled in understanding what they were being told.
Now. Imagine those people whose job it is to make *hard*, literal life-and-death decisions, hearing:
> We fight to win. We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don’t **fight with stupid rules of engagement**. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. **No** more politically correct and **overbearing rules of engagemen**t, just common sense, maximum **lethality**, and authority for warfighters.
I am deeply hopeful that Hegseth demonstrated to each and every leader in our armed forces why he cannot be followed.