There were no “good guys” in the Vietnam War. Both North and South Vietnam were led by ruthless dictators. Le Duan’s regime embraced the violence and repression of the old Stalinists, while Diem and the Nhus openly embraced repression and corruption across all levels of society.
The NLF (Viet Cong) used extreme violence and terror to advance its goals, oftentimes targeting ordinary civilians and the Montagnard (Hmong) indigenous in the Central Highlands. Both the PAVN and ARVN were prone to committing atrocities, abusing and executing POWs or civilians.
My Lai was just one of many massacres. Operation Phoenix, the Free Fire Zones, and Rolling Thunder killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. Besides the infamous atrocities committed by American aircraft and ground troops, ARVN and South Korean ROK units also perpetrated atrocities in their war.
The price was 2,000,000 Vietnamese lives, most between 1965 and 1975.
The-marx-channel on
War is always hell for everyone involved except for the ones that started it.
Patty-XCI91 on
Absolute false equivalence… NVA was literally fighting for it’s lands…. South Vietnam was a puppet state molded into existence by one of the most imperialist nations to ever exist.
atnight_owl on
On the left side: there’s no corruption because there’s no free press, and you only get what the ruling party wants you to hear. Wink-wink.
I often see memes or comments that associate corruption with capitalist countries, as if corruption didn’t exist in communist countries. False. Those countries are so corrupt and repressive that the very definition of corruption is distorted, because in reality the leadership behaves like monarchs.
maharbilly23 on
Yet another both sides are bad take lol, south and US are far far worse than the communist. Not only South Repression are far worse than the north. Like the whole reason US invade Vietnam and than bomb Cambodia is because they don’t want to give them free elections and give communist a chance in elections. U won’t say north are south are equally bad in USA civil war just because northern armies sometimes commit war crimes and Lincoln sometimes may overreach his power.
Oldaccgotshadowban on
dont foget that fulro also suck as well
1000Zasto1000Zato on
Pathological US hate for communism is fascinating. US was willing to fight real and cold wars for decades just to ironically become reliant on it through China in the end
Archaon0103 on
Maybe the USA shouldn’t involve in the first place? The majority of the country support the communist because guess what, people prefer the guys who fought the Japanese the the French over the guys who were basically the puppet of the French just a few years ago.
Automatic_Leek_1354 on
There are five different ones, and all five apply to both sides
DaniCBP on
That’s why the Vietnamese masses supported majoritarily the Viet Minh, sure.
Legal_Talk_3847 on
Yeah I mean one side is trying to decolonize and self determinize, but they happened to opt out of the capitalist death cult, so I guess NAPALM IS OKAY 😀
a_hooman21 on
I’m glad someone finally said it.
Cheesyman7269 on
Finally someone said it
No-Order-5568 on
Meanwhile in Cambodia: sniff sniff?! Capitalist arrested him!!!!
BigHatPat on
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There were no “good guys” in the Vietnam War. Both North and South Vietnam were led by ruthless dictators. Le Duan’s regime embraced the violence and repression of the old Stalinists, while Diem and the Nhus openly embraced repression and corruption across all levels of society.
The NLF (Viet Cong) used extreme violence and terror to advance its goals, oftentimes targeting ordinary civilians and the Montagnard (Hmong) indigenous in the Central Highlands. Both the PAVN and ARVN were prone to committing atrocities, abusing and executing POWs or civilians.
My Lai was just one of many massacres. Operation Phoenix, the Free Fire Zones, and Rolling Thunder killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. Besides the infamous atrocities committed by American aircraft and ground troops, ARVN and South Korean ROK units also perpetrated atrocities in their war.
The price was 2,000,000 Vietnamese lives, most between 1965 and 1975.
War is always hell for everyone involved except for the ones that started it.
Absolute false equivalence… NVA was literally fighting for it’s lands…. South Vietnam was a puppet state molded into existence by one of the most imperialist nations to ever exist.
On the left side: there’s no corruption because there’s no free press, and you only get what the ruling party wants you to hear. Wink-wink.
I often see memes or comments that associate corruption with capitalist countries, as if corruption didn’t exist in communist countries. False. Those countries are so corrupt and repressive that the very definition of corruption is distorted, because in reality the leadership behaves like monarchs.
Yet another both sides are bad take lol, south and US are far far worse than the communist. Not only South Repression are far worse than the north. Like the whole reason US invade Vietnam and than bomb Cambodia is because they don’t want to give them free elections and give communist a chance in elections. U won’t say north are south are equally bad in USA civil war just because northern armies sometimes commit war crimes and Lincoln sometimes may overreach his power.
dont foget that fulro also suck as well
Pathological US hate for communism is fascinating. US was willing to fight real and cold wars for decades just to ironically become reliant on it through China in the end
Maybe the USA shouldn’t involve in the first place? The majority of the country support the communist because guess what, people prefer the guys who fought the Japanese the the French over the guys who were basically the puppet of the French just a few years ago.
There are five different ones, and all five apply to both sides
That’s why the Vietnamese masses supported majoritarily the Viet Minh, sure.
Yeah I mean one side is trying to decolonize and self determinize, but they happened to opt out of the capitalist death cult, so I guess NAPALM IS OKAY 😀
I’m glad someone finally said it.
Finally someone said it
Meanwhile in Cambodia: sniff sniff?! Capitalist arrested him!!!!
get ready, tankies are about to colonize this comments section