F*CK your arguments about not using boats, vatniks
imaginary_name on
And if you do it with the blessing of the Pope, you can call it Ostsiedlung.
Blindmailman on
Its not genocide. We just force you to learn our language and imprison or censor artists who write in languages we don’t like then label them as Russians if somehow their work gets popular.
MinuQu on
Why stop at the 20th century?
Karohalva on
I dunno, man. Genocide typically suggests a level of organizational and institutional competence that I don’t really associate with czarist government. I’m not denying cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity. I’m saying imperial officers and bureaucrats were infamous for a lot of things, but competence definitely wasn’t it.
TheSanityInspector on
The Prison Of Nations.
Crimson_Knickers on
Pretty much most European powers did that. French “Frenchified(?)”, and so on.
Also, you’re overstating how competent Czarist Russia was. So, what is it then, another case of “the enemy is simultaneously strong and weak”?
chilling_hedgehog on
Cultural genocide is just genocide, no need to relativize
TheHistoryMaster2520 on
Brother, they’re the same fucking thing
Toofak on
“Russification” term isn’t a more positive meaning of the word.
It has the same negative connotation in Eastern Europe as cultural genocide. In fact, we in Eastern Europe are using the word “russification” to express the crimes of Russians, and less the word genocide. But we do understand the words are synonyms.
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Same outcome.
F*CK your arguments about not using boats, vatniks
And if you do it with the blessing of the Pope, you can call it Ostsiedlung.
Its not genocide. We just force you to learn our language and imprison or censor artists who write in languages we don’t like then label them as Russians if somehow their work gets popular.
Why stop at the 20th century?
I dunno, man. Genocide typically suggests a level of organizational and institutional competence that I don’t really associate with czarist government. I’m not denying cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity. I’m saying imperial officers and bureaucrats were infamous for a lot of things, but competence definitely wasn’t it.
The Prison Of Nations.
Pretty much most European powers did that. French “Frenchified(?)”, and so on.
Also, you’re overstating how competent Czarist Russia was. So, what is it then, another case of “the enemy is simultaneously strong and weak”?
Cultural genocide is just genocide, no need to relativize
Brother, they’re the same fucking thing
“Russification” term isn’t a more positive meaning of the word.
It has the same negative connotation in Eastern Europe as cultural genocide. In fact, we in Eastern Europe are using the word “russification” to express the crimes of Russians, and less the word genocide. But we do understand the words are synonyms.
Same thing with Arabization